Passing thought from a long for a really long time
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I have been on lurking mode for awhile but I still spend at least a hour a day doing research and such. I have been into this for along time.

I really do not have the time to backtrack every event and what was said to make me feel this way. I will leave it up to others on the board as I only have so much time at the moment to spend on it.

Andy stated the following in a post recently - people did not give it the amount amazement that it deserves.

In one statement he literally hung his ass out on the line and tied CMKX to the SEC along time ago.

heres the posting !!! - give it some thought

What I specifically remembered today was a phone call one day from a very upset Roger Glenn (I think it was Summer/04 time frame) over something I had said which had made it’s way to the message boards and forums. I cannot recall what it was that Glenn was upset with me over. However, I remember he said he was calling me because Leslie Hakala’s office had phoned him. Glenn told me he was working very hard on getting CMKX reporting again and my comments did not help matters. I immediately called Urban and asked him what the heck was going on with Glenn and that I did not appreciate his phone call and his tone toward me. Urban said to not worry about it and he would discuss with Glenn.

Wish I could remember what he was upset over..perhaps it will come to me later.

The significance though is the clear fact the SEC was VERY aware of many aspects of CMKX at the time, ie mid 2004, but took no action at that time to visibly protect shareholder interests or future potential shareholders from investing.

Very strange unless one accepts it is all part of the SCRIPT?

I think so folks.

Oaks (aimho)

I could not believe he stated this - WOW !

Ya I know some will say - Andy is like Melvin,Acca

I personally like Andy and have talked to him on many occasions. I think he had a reason for saying it NOW !

This was not his opinion - he actually recollected a place, time, who was their and what was said. This person just stated the SEC knew by literally linking the players together by a first hand accounting that took place while CMKX was trading and he did it in front of the whole world to see

this person obviously has no fear - TALK ABOUT BALLS !!

therefore lets assume (as many believe) that the SEC was involved with the behind the scenes action that took place back then.

Urban gives up company to Kevin
Kevin was hired by Frizzle and later becomes CEO
Frizzle is hired by Kevin as attorney for company
Urban / Edwards comes out of nowhere and give up.
Mahue, Glenn, Stockhelm walk away unscathed.

I could go on and on if i put my thoughts to it.

It really sounds to me that the SEC had all of this set up from the very beginning and has been playing a huge game of chess for years.

The investors were literally the “PAWNS”

If true they are going to have a hard time covering it up and eventually they are going to have to put some serious $$$ in peoples pockets or risk lawsuits or a falling out.

ACCA / others - e-mail / fax Campaign
ANDY - statement
all the bad persons being rounded up.
SEC admissions recently

keep putting on the pressure !! - THATS THE KEY !!

I am thinking we are nearing the end ! - lets hope

When someone (Mahue, SEC ?) finally yells checkmate I think we will get what we deserve.

best, mike @swordfish168@

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I don’t think there is any question that the SEC knew ALL ABOUT CMKX in 2004...UCAD was halted right before the party in the fall of 04 so we KNOW they were heavily involved even before that...the question remains WHY did they not stop trading in CMKX then and protect shareholders...and WHY is RG and others not mentioned in the latest filings...it is CLEAR to me what happened...what is not CLEAR is when this will end and the way it will be ENDED…

In the beginning

* CMKM Diamonds was incorporated in Delaware in 1998 as Cyber Mark International Corp
* In April 2002, Cyber Mark changed its corporate domicile to Nevada.
* On November 25, 2002, Cyber Mark agreed to acquire certain mineral claims held by five companies owned by the family of Urban Casavant (Casavant) in exchange for $2 million and almost 3 billion shares of Cyber Mark restricted common stock with registration rights.
* Prior to his resignation on November 25, 2002, Cyber Mark’s sole director appointed Casavant sole director, president, and chief executive officer.
* On November 26, 2002, Casavant appointed his wife, Carolyn Casavant, as vice president of claims, his son, Wesley Casavant, age twenty-two, to the position of corporate treasurer, and his daughter, Cindy Casavant, to the position of corporate secretary.
* On December 3, 2002, the company changed its corporate name to Casavant Mining Kimberlite International.
* In February 2004, it changed its name to CMKM Diamonds.
* In the most recent information it has provided to the public through a periodic filing, a Form 10-QSB for the quarter ending September 30, 2002, CMKM Diamonds reported total assets of $344.00, all in cash, and total liabilities of $1,672.00.
* Casavant currently is the president, chief executive officer, and co-chair of CMKM Diamonds’s two-person board of directors.
* Casavant and his wife have signatory authority on CMKM Diamonds’s bank accounts.
* CMKM Diamonds has failed to file annual reports for its fiscal years ended December 31, 2002, 2003, and 2004.
* On March 31, 2003, the company filed a request for an extension of time to file its annual report for the year ended December 31, 2002, because it had not yet completed its financial statements.
* Despite having not filed an annual report for 2002, CMKM Diamonds erroneously represented in this filing that it had filed all required reports for the preceding twelve months.
* On July 22, 2003, CMKM Diamonds filed a Form 15, signed by Casavant, pursuant to Exchange Act Rule 12g-4, in which it certified that it had approximately 300 shareholders of record as of that date.
* IM appears on several of JE’s trust documents provided to NevWest as part of the new account documentation. During relevant times to the complaint, IM was the former President, director and shareholder of CMKM, and IM also acted as the Registered Agent on behalf of CMKM.

Before the hearing

* John Edwards opened 32 accounts at NevWest and sold more than 250 billion shares of a sub-penny stock, which generated total sales proceeds of over $53 million. NASD alleged that NevWest earned commission revenue on the sales totaling $2.5 million—36 percent of the firm’s total revenues during the relevant period.
* CMKM opened 100 bank accounts of which 64 million dollars passed through at Silver State Bank
* 703 billion o/s
* Authorized Shares increased from less than 1 billion to 800 billion
* Outstanding Shares increased from less than 1 billion to 779 billion
* 600 billion in dilution in the year 2004
* 407 billion in Cede and Co. as of March 2005
* Ameritrade holds 180 billion shares of CMKX for its clients
* Was told we would be pleasantly surprised by O/S and made to believe it was under 400 billion. Melvin on the air denies that the O/S is over 400 Billion after TA fiasco
* CMKX Transfer Agent gagged per direction of the UC
* UC gave shares in a deal but issued himself those shares just prior to announcement
* 16.5 billion shares buyback and the o/s never decreased and after the PR the o/s doubled
* Refuses to give investors basic information on company
* Refuses to give share structure
* CMKX trading unregistered shares in SASK, trading halted there
* SASK inquiry into CMKX valuations ignored
* CMKX partner USCA under investigation by the SASK
* No revenue stream from company operations
* Repeated claims of being close to reporting when in fact no attempt had been made
* Claims in Canada for mineral rights, made to believe 100’s of holes drilled. but only 15
* claimed buybacks yet O/S raised after each claim
* Goldak would not sign off on the PR of the TDEM survey because the PR was misleading.
* UC buys a 3.5 million dollar property, motor-home, hummer, boat, likes to gamble, likes to race funny cars while shareholders value decreases
* UC at race track almost every weekend
* Spent investors money to sponsor motorcycle and drag racing
* Advertises stock instead of company, Got CMKX
* Voids in records
* UC says he doesn’t know how to run a public company
* UC blames others for mismanagement
* SEC investigation and temporary halt
* Lied on form 15 more then 100% off (claimed under 300, had 689)
* Lied on SEC documents about the Address and tried to cover it up

During the hearing

* Judge ruled that NS is not going to be admitted into evidence because company did not claim it was a factor in not filing
* She asked SEC if they think CMKX has NS and the SEC said no
* When asked by the SEC, TA stated there was no record of CMKX management inquiring into the number of shareholders in July 2003
* RG was paid $250,000 and one page report was presented
* Urban shows up with his own personal lawyer
* Urban invokes his 5th Amendment right to not answer any/all questions asked by the SEC attorneys (12 minutes of “I take the 5th")
* Maheu testifies he was not aware of the problems the new accountant and attorney were having in receiving documentation from Urban to get filings completed.
* Maheu can’t answer question on companies operations
* We find out Urban runs CMKX from his house, not the company PR’d new offices in Las Vegas
* Maheu paid $40,000 a month. Has been paid for 2 months pay even though he has been there 4 months and Judge makes joke about the amount he is paid
* Accountants: all quit after frustration in not being able to do their jobs. Current accountant, Neil Levine, resigns on May 9th one day before the hearing
* Rendal Williams (CEO of UCAD & 50/50 partner with CMKX) has a “failing memory” when questioned on the stand, he appearingly is distancing himself from CMKX/Urban Casavant
* Dhonau met UC at the slot machines
* Carolyn Casavant wrote checks against the company account although she is not an officer of the company, explanation given to the court “that’s what wife’s do.”
* Current financial status, over $30 million in debt
*Judge says this is a filing issue
* Has till 29th of June for rebuttals and decision will be by July 15th

After the hearing

* Two .011 micron size diamonds
* Only 15 holes drilled, nothing found in any except in one hole see above
* Drilling report says to give it up people.
* Company issued PR that 100’s of anomalies found from goldak fly over yet 8K states 16 from goldak fly over & some of them may not be worth drilling
* Refuses to give investors basic information on company.
* Refuses to give share structure
* Auditor files 10-A letter for possible illegal activities with CMKXtreme, deals, and loans to officers. It was illegal that the company did not keep records
* Bill issues a Shareholder Derivative Letter
* UC can’t afford to sponsor Arends car anymore
* Frizzell working on proving NS
* Revoked by the SEC
* UC refuses to let the shareholders know whats going on or give any reinsurances.

After the Appeal was dropped/Cert Pull

* Entourage deal for 45 million shares to be distributed to bonafide shareholders
* Cert Pull was announced before you can get your Entourage distribution
* 8-K states due to lack of funds that they have defaulted on claims (United Carina, 101047025 Saskatchewan Ltd. (“1010”), and American Shaft)
* 8-K states Maheu resigns and UC will resign due to health reasons after distribution
* Task Force formed with Maheu, Stoecklien, and Frizzell
* 1st Corp. Update - As CMKM is effectively a non-operational company holding only the Entourage shares and intangible assets
* 2nd Corp. Update - The Task Force was formed solely for the purpose of establishing a Distribution Plan and supervising the distribution of the Entourage shares and other assets of CMKM, if any. The Task Force will not be conducting any due diligence to determine the validity of any other potential assets of CMKM other than those stated above.
* And - The Task Force has been apprised of the significant rumors pertaining to the receipt of funds and erroneous agreements reached with brokerage firms short in CMKM’s stock. Other than the funds received from Casavant to pay for certain of the costs associated with the Task Force’s operations, there have been no funds received from brokers/dealers or any other sources
* Stoecklien no longer represents CMKX
* We find out that CIM lost it zinc claims and as of now is in Default in Nevada
* Lawsuit against UC, CMKM, and CMKXtreme for unpaid bills

After the Cert Pull

* Stoecklien and the TF recommends and interplead
* Stoecklien and Maheu resign the Task Force and no longer has any involvement in CMKM.
* Was understanding that a PR was to be released in a week which never happened.
* Bill Frizzell no longer represents shareholders and doesn’t no anything more then us.
* TF is dissolved

* 18 months after the last update from UC he issues a PR stating an interplead and new CEO.
* Kevin West is named interim CEO.
* NevWest was charge for Money Laundering with John Edwards as the client funneling shares through numerous companies.
* Company still refuses to communicate with shareholders
* UC refuses to testify at his own civil trial taking the 5th yet again
* After a phone calls to Moron the Company was forced to issue a PR in Dec. 06. Company wants shareholders to stop calling Moran’s office.
* The Company met with their corporate attorney, John T. Moran III of the Moran Law Firm, to discuss the status of interpleader to be filed with the Federal Court as discussed in the PR of 8-28-06. The Company was informed that the pleadings are almost complete, however, Attorney Moran was made aware of and discovered additional Company information that dictated further investigation and due diligence that needed to be performed by all of the attorneys involved before the document can be completed.
* Kevin West, interim CEO seems to be nothing more then a IR person to answer phone calls
* Company promises to write a PR once a month to keep shares informed of interplead.
* Kevin claims Interplead is treading on new grounds and that is for the delay.
* In telephone calls, Kevin tells each shareholder that called there is no settlement, that the Interplead is all that is happening at the moment.
* Interplead has been postponed again. And it looks like it is to the magic statue of limitation date.
* Gene Hurd files a lawsuit in federal court before the 2 year statute of limitation date against CMKM Diamonds, Inc., Urban Casavant, Robert Maheu, David DeSormeau, Rupert Perrin, Carolyn Casavant, Wesley, Casavant, Cindy Casavant, and 50 roes and 50 does.
* Bill Frizzell issues a second Shareholder Derivative Letter
* Bill Frizzell files suit against DeSormeau, Edwards and 50 Does and 50 Roe Corporations

Urban Retires and Turns over Company to Kevin West

* Kevin learned the truth about Urban and has been talking to Bill Frizzell on what to do.
* Kevin takes over CMKM as Urban Casavant issues a PR of his resignation.
* Kevin receive several boxes of information from an attorney in Canada about CMKM which leads to a lawsuit against Urban Casavant.
* Kevin West Hires Frizzell Law Firm.
* The Frizzell Law firm has hired Las Vegas attorney George Cromer as local counsel to file these first two lawsuits on behalf of the Company. Los Angeles attorney, Al Hodges, will be assisting the legal team as it proceeds.
* Bill Frizzell files suit against DeSormeau, Edwards and 50 Does and 50 Roe Corporations
* Kevin west announces that they are moving the corporation from Nevada to Texas and converts out of Nevada.
* The company instructs 1st Global to stop further transfer or issuance of CMKM Diamonds, Inc. stock effective immediately.
* The Company has instructed the law offices of Moran and Associates to cease any and all legal work on behalf of CMKM Diamonds until further notice.
* The As of March 29th 2007, the Company had 3 pending lawsuits, a Wells Notice from the SEC that was supposed to have been answered by March 9, 2007 (of which current management was totally unaware, until an official at the SEC contacted them on 4-10-07), and ongoing investigations by at least four government agencies. In addition there is documentation showing the forfeiture of all claims and mineral rights, no corporate records for the past 4 ½ years of business and taxes that have never been filed. The only tangible asset is a 45 million share certificate of Entourage Mining stock.
* Company only has $558.00 left out of approximately $200 million from the sell of CMKM shares.
* A lawsuit was filed naming Urban Casavant, The UAJC 2005 irrevocable trust, Mike Williams, DeShawn L. Wayne, Brian Dvorak, James Kinney, Ginger Gutierrez, P.A. holdings, Bucko LLC, 20 does and 20 roes.
* Susanne Trimbath has agreed to help the Company in our efforts to determine “fails to deliver” in our stock.
* CMKM Attorney David Koch files a Temporary Restraining Order against several trust and properties related to those involved with CMKM.
* CMKM Diamonds, Inc. has engaged the accounting firm of Henry & Peters, P.C. with a certified fraud examiner.
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Post by: Andy

IMO:Those in powerful positions never really cared

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about the little investor/speculator, even if they said they cared. It was lip service, while looking the other way, knowing full well what was occurring. They took their slice of the action and simply ASSUMED it was ok and acceptable as noone would question their position of power. They took it as their right. 

WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

Oh, the times they are a changing! Their hand and ATTITUDE has been forced in a direction they did not choose or even foresee. 

CMKX bona fide cert pulled registered shareholders are locked and MUST participate in ANY and ALL reconcilliations with the powerful who have had to concede to some of their past greed. 

Don’t bite the hand that ultimately feeds you or else many of those hands will rise up in unison and be a force to be reckoned with!

Our day is coming CMKR’s.

Oaks (aimho)

By: sparkysantos
07 May 2008, 11:39 AM EDT
Msg. 716185 of 716191

Why Sparky thinks we are about to be paid:

Most bona fide CMKX longs who regularly read this thread should know by now that Sparky has been following the US-based prime brokers (the Nasty Nine) quite closely for over a year now.

And those who¡¦ve read even a sample of all that Sparky¡¦s written should also know that he has been quite disgusted with all the dirt he’s learned about these gigantic brokerage/banking/market-making/insurance/private-wealth-management entities ¡V slippery entities that we all must sadly & unavoidably depend upon in order to prosper.

That all being said, Sparky cannot imagine why the shares of these firms have performed as well as they have over the past week or so.

In fact, kindly take note of how strongly the “financials” closed yesterday (Tue). Against a backdrop of Fannie Mae and UBS reporting terrible earnings results just before the open; it not only appeared very unlikely that the Dow would close up, but it also appeared particularly unlikely that the “financials” would close up.

But the Dow did close up, up 51.29 points, about 0.4%; and you guessed it, the old once-reliable “financials” lead the pack!

Now as odd as this may sound, in Sparky¡¦s opinion there is a single scenario that would completely explain, and certainly justify, what recently (last four sessions) appears to be subtle but aggressive accumulation of the shares of these ¡§financials;¡¨ and that would be that we bona fide CMKM Diamond shareholders are about to be paid.

And here¡¦s why the shares of ¡§financials¡¨ would rally if we got paid:

First off, if we ever get paid, IMO one can then safely assume that the underlying settlement was reached long, long ago; probably before most of us even received our stock certificates; and it was probably funded, at least in large part, with IOUs.

And if this were the case, then as cash was paid into the settlement fund, either initially or as IOUs came due, the related disbursements had to be reflected on the books of the publicly-traded Bad Guys who were making the settlement payments.

Moreover, if it did go down something like this; under such slippery circumstances, wouldn¡¦t it stand to reason that the Trustee of the aforementioned settlement fund would invest the cash somewhere safe, a place that would not end up on the balance sheets of these same ¡§financials¡¨ that stole the funds initially ¡V like US Treasuries perhaps? And if so, could this be the ¡§real¡¨ cause of the global banking system¡¦s widely-publicized lack of liquidity (cash), the same widespread lack of cash that all the Talking Heads keep calling a sub-prime-mortgage caused credit crunch?

Well anyway, if this is true, and we are about to be paid; then the exact same funds that suddenly when absent and caused all the problems for the ¡§financials¡¨ are about to return home to the computer screens of the ¡§financials¡¨ ¡V And once the funds are back, even if the cash is scattered among thousands of accounts maintained by CMKX shareholders, the ¡§financials,¡¨ as always, will do as they wish with our funds.

Here are some other random thoughts; most of which Sparky thinks support his near-term payment theory:

„« Confidentiality Issues—For years now, Sparky has been having discussions with fellow longs about how unlikely it is that a settlement would get a lot of media attention; unless of course it was part of a much larger market cleanup effort that the powers to be wanted to be made public. More likely, IMO, we would be paid quietly; and ideally, at the same time that something bigger was happening; something that would mask the payment. Along these lines, Sparky and his pals view the Bush Administration¡¦s ongoing distribution of stimulus checks to be just such an event ¡V in fact, it¡¦s an ideal mask; one that can even take credit for the sure-to-happen economic stimulation.

„« Political Ramifications ¡V- Sparky has a hard time imaging how a settlement of any size could possibly escape political involvement. First off, because the underlying negotiations would have most likely involved various governmental agencies, many key politicians would be aware of what was happening; no matter how secretively these negotiations were conducted. And hey, if politicians know about something like this; by their very nature they will want to take credit for it ¡V this Spark thinks we can all bank on!

„« Timing ¡V- If politicians are involved, then in order for ¡§them¡¨ to get the most bang out of the ¡§taking credit¡¨ aspect of the settlement; the event would have to happen close enough to an election so that credit could be claimed; but not far enough before the election to allow the ¡§other side¡¨ to reverse the spin on things. And IMO, the more politicians involved, the more likely ¡§timing¡¨ would involve a major election; like the one coming up in November.

„« Fiscal Feasibility ¡V- Talk about timing, what better time than now, with housing prices crashing and banks seriously short of cash, to pay a sizable settlement? In fact, the stimulating effects of such a disbursement is about the only thing Sparky can think of that will stop the ongoing and accelerating slide in US home prices. Specifically, consumers are not likely to run out and buy a new home just because they have an extra $ 300, $ 600, or $ 1,200. But on the other hand, if 40k to 60k CMKX shareholders (And FWIW, Sparky thinks the shareholder base over 100k) each receive millions; then yes, most of us will go house shopping, and many of us will build income-generating real estate portfolios ¡V and this will stop the ongoing slide in prices, and probably even reverse it.

part 2

„« Global Embarrassment ¡V- In Sparky¡¦s informed opinion, if in the very near future US ¡§financials¡¨ don¡¦t become literally awash with liquidity, or if US real estate prices don¡¦t immediately rebound; then most of this nation¡¦s largest and most infamous ¡§financials¡¨ will fail. During the quarter just ended, if you read what these firms are filing with the SEC you¡¦ll note that they¡¦ve conveniently converted a chit load of Level II assets that must be marked to market to Level III assets; a very special and illiquid asset class where the ¡§financial¡¨ determines the value. Is it any wonder that most of the US ¡§financials¡¨ saw increased value in these assets?

So unless the market prices of securities tied directly and irreversibly to US home prices improve, or unless they receive an immediate shot of cash that doesn¡¦t have to be paid back; these firms are borderline insolvent and thus in very, very deep ####. And if one thinks the US Dollar has had it tough lately, just image what will happen to the US Dollar if one or more major US ¡§financial¡¨ like Lehman Bros, Citigroup, or Merrill Lynch fails.

To conclude, Sparky is thoroughly convinced that without some sort of immediate ¡§additional¡¨ stimulation package that is at least four of five times the Bush Administration¡¦s $ 168 +/- billion plan; housing prices in America will continue to slide for a long, long time.

And if this does happen, then all the CDOs, MBSs, SIVs, and other derivatives these ¡§financials¡¨ own, the ones tied directly and irreversibly to real estate prices, will become worth less; and because of leverage, they will be worth considerably less. In fact, in Sparky¡¦s opinion there is simply no way that the US ¡§financials¡¨ will ever manage to maintain required reserves much longer unless US real estate values stabilize and rebound. So in a nutshell, their survival requires higher US real estate prices near term.

That said, the only thing Sparky can think of that could reverse this ongoing and historically-steep slide in home prices would be a nice big CMKX settlement. It would not only trigger one of the biggest up-ticks in the overall demand for housing that the country¡¦s ever seen, but it would also instantly return all those now-missing billions to the liquidity-starved banking industry; and this in turn would reignite some much-needed mortgage lending.

And even if the vast majority of CMKX shareholders never invest another dime on Wall Street as long as they live; the Street will still benefit indirectly, for we have no control over what those from whom we acquire things buy with their sale proceeds.

See you all in the Finals ~

Wishfully Thinking,

By: Bellingus
07 May 2008, 12:31 PM EDT
Msg. 31684 of 31686

Sparky…
A couple of things. Your reasoning is sound. However, I believe you are basing your premise on us being paid from a pool of capital much larger that what is actually in place.

The payout rumors of the last few weeks are once again way over the top. Ppl are saying anything from $1 to $4.50 per share. That ain’t gonna happen. Take $2 as a number in between. That would total payments in the $1.2 trillion range. Can you imagine that much new currency in circulation? We’d be looking at lethal hyperinflation before the end of this year while we’re already choking on all the new money introduced by the Fed to bail out the criminal bankers.

But fiscal responsibility is only one reason we won’t see anything near that much up front. There’s another reason sitting just below the surface that says the first round of money will be modest. Those who have been paying attention know what I’m talking about.

You mention that you think there are closer to 100,000 shareholders than 40,000. I’m not sure where you get that figure but you may be right, indirectly. I believe there is a pool of money waiting. I also believe there are more than 40,000 ppl who will receive funds. And, I believe there is more than a single company’s shareholders who will receive funds from that pool, so maybe 100,000 isn’t so far off but I think it’s closer to 75,000.

FWIW, there is real money in this play - and it will come from making smart decisions, not from the candy man or the mailman.

By: sparkysantos
07 May 2008, 01:46 PM EDT
Msg. 31686 of 31686
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Excellent points BELLINGUS:

Although I have no clue at all how big any settlement fund may be, I do believe that in order to avoid a very severe and near-term nosedive, the US economy needs a serious injection of cash at least four times the size of the < $ 200 billion stimulus plan now being disbursed.

Ideally, and also for the sake of the US Dollar, it would be most beneficial and least inflationary if all this cash that needs to be injected was not simply printed and passed on to future generations; and along these lines, Sparky hopes that at least part of the quarter trillion dollars already written off by the “financials” has found its way into such a fund.

As for dollar amounts, not knowing how many naked shares are involved, or even how many companies for that matter; Sparky hesitates to speculate what CMKX shareholders might see on a per share basis. But I do agree that there are limits to how high a single payment could be; and this limit would of course reflect the number of shares involved.

As for the actual size of the CMKX shareholder base, Sparky finds it very odd not only that for years now the base seems to always be described using a 40k - 60k range; but also that this range never changed, even after revocation, and despite gift-related cert splits being accomplished by many, many shareholders, Sparky included.

More pointedly, doesn’t it strike you all as a little strange that CMKX shares haven’t traded for years; that management has had NOBO, OBO, ADP, and TA lists for years; that prior management declared a paid a number of stock dividends years ago; that current management has hired specialist Dr Susanne Trimbath to analyze our capital structure; yet management, and even the SEC in its just-filed Complaint, continue to refer to the size of our shareholder base as somewhere between 40k and 60k shareholders? My word, 60k is 50% bigger than 40k; think about that!!

Sparky’s Take: Mischief is clearly afoot!

Best Regards,

Sparky

By: seatech3
07 May 2008, 02:00 PM EDT
Msg. 31687 of 31692
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sparky

I have often wondered if there is some confusion on this shareholder count issue between number of shareholders and number of accounts.

I had 6 different accounts with Etrade that contained CMKX shares and I know they looked at it as accounts and not “shareholder(s)”. If I’m not mistaken Etrade had close to 10,000 accounts and Ameritrade had close to 18,000 accounts with CMKX shares. I may have that backwards. So the question then becomes, how many actual shareholders do these 28,000 accounts represent?

At this point it doesn’t really matter because the only thing I want to know right now is WHEN? lol

Just thought I would bring it up.

Mike

By: sparkysantos
07 May 2008, 02:09 PM EDT
Msg. 31688 of 31692
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Seatech:

Those are good points Mike; but considering that the proverbial game of musical chairs stopped over two years ago, wouldn’t you think management would now know how many shareholders own the company being managed?

Put another way, it’s always been my experience that a tax ID number is required for every single brokerage account, whether individual, corporate, retirement, or trust; and accordingly, by now someone should really know how many shareholders there are.

IMO,

Sparky

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TD Ameritrade & Casavant International Mining Cert

Just got off the phone with a rep, regarding my Td ameritrade account, I ask if she knew anything about my CMKM diamond Cert, being accepted if I brought them back in to be placed in my account. “ Hmm, I remember that we (Tdamerittrade) had to (or was Forced to) give our customers there cert for CMKM Diamond” she said.” To answer my question she said NO, we would not be able to accept those Certs! So then I told her about (CIM)Casavant International Mining, I informed her about Casavant International Mining cert and asked the same question about returning those Cert to be place in my account? She put me on hold to check into it, when she got back “ Well, with your Casavant International Mining cert this look like we can accept them, but it would have to be reviewed before being placed into you account” I ask if the symbol would be CIM or CMI, she explained to me that it would be a different symbol, if not a symbol it would be enter in as a CUSP number…

Well, Well,
JMHO,CMKX / CMKM Diamond Inc in my opinion isn’t going to trade again its going to BE “Casavant International Mining”
CMKX/CMKM has our NSS money/ our Damages then its going to go away...We JMHO will move on in Casavant International Mining…